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So me and my friend are going to start new armies come Christmas time and with him being a big fan of Space Wolves i thought what better match up to go against him with other than the Thousand Sons well if you can call them that after you see my list....
The list seems to be taking on more a goat look and not one which would run a lot of Rubric Marines as they seem to cost sooooo much in points! I am also worried about my options here for anti tank, do you think 2x Helbrutes / Magnus will be enough? Do we even have that many options for anti tank or are we expecting our smiting abilities will chip them down enough for us to be able to take care of them.

So game plan is the Cultist will camp the back field objectives and provide deep striking denial as i want this army pushing forward and not having to worry so much of what is coming behind me as much as possible. I have the Dark Matter Crystal for your typical 1st turn potential charge and mainly to make my opponent worry about 30 Tzaangors getting into there front line and attacking twice causing a lot of problem. This will hopefully free up Magus a bit to get across the board and do his business. The other Tzaangors can either march up as a screen for Arhiman and the Sorcerer on Disc to buff Magnus or the Tzaangors. My Helbrutes will be baby sat by another sorcerer providing one with 1+ to hit with Prescience and rerolls of 1. I can also use the fire twice stratagem to make full use of there fire power. I feel like helbrutes are the way to go as even if they take wounds they still fire at BS 3+ and on a roll of a 6 after taking a wound they could get free shooting off. As for the Tzaangors Enlightened im not 100% sure but thinking they should zoom up and clear screens or go chasing pesky Scouts, Shooting them off objectives with one of the shamans. The shaman giving them 1+ to hit rolls and auto wounding on 5+ on the hit rolls is very nice at -1 so it should do the job.
So tell me what you think. Have i taken the right combination of spells for what this list needs? Do you think i have all the tools needed for a all rounder list? What are your guys experience with any of these models / combos. Any feedback is good feedback so give me all you got :P

Any way here is the list....

Battalion Detachment - 5+CP

Ahriman on Disc of Tzeentch - 166 - Warptime/Glamour of Tzeentch/Temporal manipulation

Exalted Sorceror on Disc of Tzeentch - 141 - Infernal Gaze/Warptime -Relic Helm of the Third Eye

Chaos Cultists x10 - 40

Chaos Cultists x10 - 40

Tzaangors x 30 - 220 - Brayhorn

Tzaangors x 23 - 178 - Brayhorn

Tzaangor Shaman - 90 - Glamour of Tzeentch - Relic Dark Matter Crystal

Tzaangor Enlightened x 9 - 153 - Greatbows

Vanguard Detachment 1+CP

Exalted Sorceror on Disc of Tzeentch - 141 - Prescience/Temporal Manipulation

Tzaangor Shaman - 90 - Tzeentch’s Firestorm

Helbrute - 147 - Twin Lass/Missile launcher

Helbrute - 147 - Twin Lass/Missile launcher

Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment

Magnus the Red - 445 - Gaze of Fate/Weaver of Fate/Inferal Gateway

List looks ok to me. Nice big units of Tzangors...very cool!:) Personally I would go double Maulerfiend instead of Hellbrutes. But both units have their uses:)

True the Maulerfiends are also a huge! distraction rocking alot of wounds, never thought about them. Also what are your take on big units, you think moral test will be the down fall on this list. Not sure if i should run the 23 Tzaangor squad in a 10 man and a 13 man also the enlightened as a squad of a 5 and 4 man.It boggles my mind trying to theory craft it all :P

One spell I would get in there would be gift of chaos as you can take huge chunks of Infantry and elites away Ithink you should take 5hat over infernal gateway because you get mixed results sometimes when I use it I hurt some carnifexses and kill some genestealers but others it just does one mortal wound I find it isn't very rellyable so I think gift of chaos is better but I do think it's your choice and definitely experiment with the psychic powers

That does sound like a good choice, also been looking at Diabolic Strength and Death Hex but its hard to choose what to drop. Guess i should play test like you said to try these out.

Well, the first recommendation would be to wait for CA2018, it should be out within the month, and hopefully marines of all types can rejoice a bit. Now, as far as your list is concerned - I think your instinct to at least have some sort of game going in the shooting phase is good. I don't think 3 predators is half bad when you run magnus, makes for a difficult choice in terms of what to bring down. Princes are very good as well in general.